As for the 7 Rem Mag vs. the 7 PRC, the trajectory data indicates there is no appreciable difference out to 400 yards and not a heck of a lot more at 500 yards, so most hunters wont realize a major advantage with the PRC version. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. .672., MV 2,900 fps. Since then weve met eight or ten other 7mms, but none has knocked the old 7 Rem Mag from its perch. All of the figures from both companies were developed in 24 inch test barrels. One of the draws to the 7 SAUM is the availability of high-quality brass through companies like Norma and ADG. Read Next: Small Calibers for Big Game. I also see the counter that belted cases are reloaded just like non belted and it is a non issue. $89.95. 22 Nosler. 28 Nosler offers excellent performance but brass is spendy and availability is hit or miss . Fill this brass case with smokeless powder instead of water and, according to some handloading guides, 62.5 grains of Reloder 22 should shove a 175-grain bullet from a 24-inch barrel 2,870 fps. The maximum load for that bullet is 61.5 grains of H4350 powder, which yields a MV of 3133 fps at a chamber pressure of 61,900 psi. Ban sober drivers from driving. Overall cartridge length of the 7mm RUM is 3.6 inches, right there with a .375 H&H Magnum. 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data. It went on to prove itself as a grand all-round big game cartridge, becoming the most popular, most recognized 7mm magnum around the world. You must log in or register to reply here. I went 7SAUM. Moose by the dozens have fallen to the 7mm Rem. Consider that already own a 270 Win with a 22" barrel. 195s topped out @ 2950 w/ N570 using a drop tube to fit powder, that primer pocket was loose after. You are using an out of date browser. 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RDF, or Bergers 190-gr. landed with a splash big enough to drench every deer/elk cartridge in North America. $ 87.00 - $ 145.00. Hornady 7mm PRC overall length matches that of the 30-06 and 270 Win., so it fits standard length actions. Nosler brass also undergoes the rigorous quality control that premium Nosler bullets have experienced for over 60 years. 92 grs. Full Member. Now lets check out the 7mm RUM. gavevare til innvarming, bryllup, bursdager og alle anledninger. And the accuracy with both powders was great as well. Versitile and with the right twist rate can really launch some High BC pills out there. Bonus benefits with the 7mm Rem. The 28 Nosler uses .284 diameter bullets while the 300 Win Mag uses larger .308 bullets. First, the 7mm Rem Mag and 28 Nosler use larger diameter bullets than the 6.8 Western. Will the 156 take down an elk, sure but I would prefer to have a .284 caliber in a biased opinion. Im going to run the 7 Saum Im thinking. When I add this up, I default to the 7mm Rem. 7RM!! Pros and Cons of the 7mm PRC I'm going 7-300prc because it'll out pace a 7mag by 100-150fps with all bullet weights at much more manage pressures. Not to concerned about the barrel life, you cant expect Ferrari performance and get Prius fuel mileage haha theres always a trade off, I think a mild load in a 28 might be the best of both worlds. But if you want to win long range target competitions, the 7 PRC is your best bet. Factory ammo all over, good brass fron Nosler, ADG, etc. Remington claims a MV of 3175 fps and ME of 3133 ft. lbs. I'm not too familiar with the 7LRM, but I'm having a 28 Nosler built for hunting. It may not display this or other websites correctly. It's an extraordinary caliber that has proven itself for decades upon decades, and just in the last few years has hit new strides thanks to the SAAMI standardization of the caliber, because of it's time-tested popularity. I was looking at a 7-300 win, 7-300NM, and a few others. factory 7mm Rem. Bullet made it in about 3" an blew a big hole in it. I go back and forth in my head 1000 times on choices, then I will decide on what I know that I want, then I'll see something else and go back to the drawing board. Im sure Remington engineers started with the .300 H&H case, but it was itself a modification of the .375, so same difference. Abonner p vrt nyhetsbrev og bli den frste som fr vite om kuponger og spesielle kampanjer. As mentioned above, one of the nice things about the 7RM is factory ammo is plentiful and fairly inexpensive. Nosler AccuBond Long Range. To get this Hornady went to its usual bag of tricks: The new, updated Remington M700 standard length action rifles handled the Hornady 7mm PRC 180-gr. If we're talking optimizing performance, a 26" barrel is not optimum for either cartridge - you should instead be looking at 30" - 32" barrels. The difference might surprise you. without laser assistance. And thats part of the reason 7mms are so popular. $120.95. Straight on shot into chest between the legs at about 50 yds. Qty: Add to cart . (Aim for center and bullet will not rise more than 5 inches nor fall more than 5 inches within the MPBR. High-velocity cartridges are high velocity for a reason. Since this rifle will be used sparingly maybe I can afford to go with something a little harder on the barrel. Cartridge: 7 RUM. With a 160 grain bullet the Remington figures are 2960 fps and 3112 ft. lbs. ADG 300 Norma Magnum Brass. Mag. Interesting. You see a 7mag throated with 250 freebore and adg brass can do all of this. 28 nosler is a great case, barrel burner, but if you're looking for say 3000fps w/ 195 at lower pressure, use H1000 or Retumbo, adg/gunwerks brass, and the brass will last you forever, take care the barrel and it may go 1000 rounds. Barrels are like truck tires. Few, if any, cartridges shoot as flat and hit as hard at distance as the 7mm Weatherby. Never saw the need for the added horse power of the 7 STW so I sold it and stayed with the 7 mm Rem Mag. This calls for a light rifle. Remington and Winchester went to short, fat, unbelted cases for their latest 7mm magnums, the 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum and the Winchester Short Magnum. Reloading the 28 is also not inexpensive. Thoughts on a 22 or 23 Barrel in 7mm Rem Mag? For really light and a short action if you reload 7 saum. If you compare Nosler .280 AI brass vs. Nosler 7SAUM brass, you get twice the cases (50) with the .280 AI for only $10 more than what it costs for 25 cases of 7mm SAUM. Mag. And in the chambers of their rifles. Worth considering. | 28 nosler is a great choice for the heavies mine is throated for the 195 eols but im gonna try the 190 atips soon. And heres a top load for the 175-gr. Will be running as a long action so no worries about magazine issues. Case has a good balance of capacity for the bullets I tested (180'd and 195's) Plenty of usable powder options. Its a criterion 26 barrel. with either the Berger 215- or 230-grain Hybrid and push them at maximum pressures. Running a 7mm like others velocities are really easily to get. 28 Nosler offers excellent performance but brass is spendy and availability is hit or miss . for my brand of hunting. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. at the muzzle. IMR 4350 was the most accurate powder tested. JavaScript is disabled. Mag. I'd opt for the 7RM. It is intended for long-range shooting due to its ability to utilize high BC bullets, and is also uniquely suited for hunting large animals such as elk. $120.95. Some are claiming as little as 600-round barrel life for RUM, 1,000 rounds for .28 Nosler, 2,000 for Rem. Buy Now. . Neither caught on, but American shooters were certainly beginning to recognize the potential for 7mm cartridges. ELD-Match ammo I shot at FTW was rated 2,975 fps on the box. If you go the Nosler route, look into the freebore for the barrel. The lighter, shorter 7mm bullets are preferred in these short case magnums. Trustpilot. And at sensible hunting distances even a basic MPBR hunter should have find more than 90 percent of his shooting opportunities covered by the Rem Mag. When making your choice, don't factor in component or ammo availability. Have a 6.5 PRC and currently building a 7 SAUM. ADG 300 Rem Ultra Mag Brass. At SAAMI specs you really hinder the performance, need a little extra freebore to seat the bullets out further. You must log in or register to reply here. Which action are you using and what barrel length? The structure of the material reveals the hardness. Reloading data published in the fifth edition of the Nosler Reloading Guide for the 7mm Rem. Brass 1 - 12 of 73 Products Sort By Position 220 Swift Premium Brass (50ct) $108.95 6.5mm PRC Bulk Unprepped Brass (100ct) Out of stock $135.49 6.5mm PRC Premium Brass (50ct) Out of stock $118.95 27 Nosler Premium Brass (25ct) How does the 280 AI do with 180 grain bullets compared to the 7mm SAUM? Again, both seen like great options but I want this to be a hunting rig, as I've got a rifle for shooting steel. burning 61 grains Reloder 22, 28 Nosler, 3,200 fps from 26 bl., 88-grs. He is having adg make brass for him, its head stamped and the neck diameter and length are correct for his design, will still need to be fire formed. First, notice that kinetic energy remains above the elk killing minimum of 1,500 ft-lbs at 700 yards. If you're only going to be shooting 160's, I think the regular 7 Rem Mag would definitely be a more economical choice. Nosler Unprimed Brass 204 Ruger $ 53.82 - $ 208.59 Select options Nosler Unprimed Brass 220 Swift (50) $ 84.99 Add to cart Nosler Unprimed Brass 222 Rem (100) $ 111.28 Add to cart Nosler Unprimed Brass 222 Rem Magnum (250) Unprocessed Rated 5.00 out of 5 $ 215.54 Add to cart Nosler Unprimed Brass 223 Rem $ 50.18 - $ 206.83 Select options Run 230-240 freebore this will work for 180eldm, 184, 190,195 Bergers. I wanted an every day backpacking Coues rifle that could do sheep, bears, caribou, goats and the occasional backpacking elk hunt if needed. Typical 140- to 175-grain, .284 slugs are wide enough to resist bending (a problem Bell had with tough, thick elephant bones) yet narrow enough to minimize drag. Choices have changed since I made the decision to go with a 7 WSM 10-15 years ago. Buy Now. I have both the 300 and 7mm SAUM, the 300 is on a model 7 action and the 7mm a standard 700SA. It only makes sense, case with 8gr less capacity out running the bigger case, it's because of pressure, and lots of it. The 28 is not going to be but about 25-50 FPS faster and it makes little difference. I neither believe in this minimum nor in shooting elk at 700 yards, but this is impressive performance for a standard-length cartridge nearing its 60th birthday. Although, the 28 Nosler is an awesome cartridge. Nonetheless, it's nice to have options Having so many options these days is a double edged sword. Mag. I think if I was buying a hunting rifle, and just wanted to keep a few high quality boxes of factory ammo around, the I would go 7Rm. Now waiting on ADG to do another run of 7 SAUM brass. It had impressed its power upon our troops in Cuba under fire from Spanish Mausers in 1898. Alabusa Learning. The Nosler Reloading Guide 9 lists a 175-gr. Buy Now. I have a 7 LRM in a DTA, I've been pretty happy with it. While testing some upgraded M700 Remington rifles at FTW Ranch last summer, I simultaneously test drove the pre-release 7mm PRC from Hornady. To comply with the new e-Privacy directive, we need to ask for your consent to set the cookies. It made sense for me. My hunting partner just bought a CA Ridgeline TI in 6.5PRC. I just did a 7mm build too. The 280AI is a great cartridge, as is the plain old 280 Remington. Mag. JavaScript is disabled. Im in the market to start a new build. You go long. He's loading the 195's to something like 3.730" COAL, well past SAAMI specs. These are some impressive numbers. You are using an out of date browser. . For perspective, this is 75 fps faster than most 175-gr. I have both chambered up on the same rifle, the 28 is about cooked so spun up a 7 MAX and maybe in a month I'll get time to pull the trigger more on it, fire forming and case prep amounts to chamfer, add primer, powder and bullet to ADG 7 MAX brass and pull the trigger. The 28 Nosler is in the 7mm Rifle Ammo family. The belt has never been an issue for me. SAUM can be found on the . Lots of hiking, backpacking, climbing, shooting to 450 yards, maybe 500 yards. Some of these new cartridges are appealing, I dont think Ill change however. Good luck in your search, hope youll be as happy as I am with my results. Im using Winchester brass, and it's showing no signs of wear after 8 or 9 reloads. The additional reach is tempting, but Id pay the price with a 26-inch, fairly heavy barrel. In order to obtain that performance from a .30 caliber, I would need to jump into the .300 Win. The resulting reservoir holds 77 grains of water with a 175-grain bullet seated to Over-All Cartridge Length (measured base to tip of bullet.). Creedmoor Sports $ 120.95 . Newer calibers tend to fade quickly these days. There are now at least 14 7mm cartridges being manufactured in the U.S. with several wildcats waiting in the wings. Another vote for 7 rem mag. And it will likely penetrate farther because more of its mass rides in the long shank behind its nose. Dec 7, 2019 #14 ; 7 mag easy. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. Minuteman. The most common comparison is 28 Nosler vs 300 Win Mag, because they're both popular in North America and are kissing cousins as far as bullet diameter goes. Great performance, easy to neck a case down and a simple bushing change gets you great dies. A major part of that depends on rifling twist. 7mm Rem. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. The factory offerings for ammo hold no weight with me, but that probably plays a role in many people's decisions. John Whiddons dies are the nicest Ive ever used. We ain't raisen no yuppy girls! &mm PRC. Ron Spomer Note: A full length article about the 7mm WSM and 7mm Rem. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The shot prior a half grain less powder had minimal pressure signs. I would go 7 LRM if it wasn't for the Hornady brass . The extra heat required to reach hyper speed eats away at barrel throats rather quickly. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This will be a custom built hunting rifle(deer and elk) and will need to be carried long distances. I dont reload but i see this statement a lot. Minuteman. The 7 SAUM is a short-action, magnum cartridges similar to the 7 WSM. It is based on the fat, belt-free 404 Jeffery case, but Nosler likely just started with the 7mm RUM which is itself a modified Jeffery. ADG Brass. Less well known in the U.S. (but more ballistically advanced) was the 7mm Weatherby Magnum from the early 1940s. More than 1,900 ft-lbs of energy at 700 yards. To help you understand the flow of energy, check out the chart-. I was tired of lugging the heavy, long, and heavy recoiling 30s around, but wanted more punch than my lighter 6.5CM. Teddy Roosevelt was so impressed that he used the 757 as a basis for what became the .30-06 Springfield. My thinking was that good ol' 7mm RM. #1 Postby Marty Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:38 am. How bout building a 280AI. Full comparison of the 28 Nosler and the 7mm rum " Remington Ultra Mag" 2 big 7mm magnums that are very comparable. Thanks, BnG. You must log in or register to reply here. Mine has a 30 Rock Creek. I'm the same as you. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. To comply with the new e-Privacy directive, we need to ask for your consent to set the cookies. Instead they seem to be shooting for the ideal balance among MV, tolerable recoil, wind deflection, and precision accuracy. Saw some shiney spots, no bolt lift but did open the pocket a little to the point of a few firings at 3120 fps. ADG 7mm Rem Ultra Mag Brass. If you dont own a 7mm of any kind and want one strictly for hunting, you might as well get the PRC version. I did 7remmag. Creedmoor Sports $ 86.95 . Qty: Add to cart. Looking at going with the 7mag or 28 nosler. 7mm RemMag. Fr pske salg: Opptil 50 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr . ammo. I'm worried bout the need of a 26" barrel for the Nosler, and hoping to get away with a 24" since I'm trying to run an Ultra 7 with it. 7 RUM Choose an option 6.5 PRC 6.5 SAUM 7 SAUM 7 REM MAG 7 RUM 28 NOSLER 300 WIN MAG 300 NORMA MAG 300 PRC 300 RUM 30 NOSLER 338 LAPUA 338 RUM 338 EDGE 300 WSM 375 RUM 7 REM MAG BRIGHT 338 RUM BRIGHT 30 NOSLER BRIGHT. The 7mm advantage comes from relatively high BC (ballistic coefficient) bullets in popular weights commonly used for hunting horned and antlered game. The 7 SAUM offers better performance than the 300 Win Mag in a package that is almost as small as the 6.5 Creedmoor. Nosler shortened the RUM case, gave it a 35-degree shoulder, and shortened the neck to .276. Varme Hansker for Sykling, Lping og Kjring, Stor kapasitet skulderveskeKjp 2, -10%, 18-i-1 snfnuggformet multiverkty i rustfritt stl, Bilkropp plastnagler festing (150 stk)Kjp 2, -10%. Categories Carefully spaced shots (dont overheat the barrel) always extend life, as does each shooters accuracy demands. Buy Now. Almost through fire forming but ran some pressure ladders with fully formed brass with 180 Berger hybrids, H1000 looks like I'll be at a good max at 3000 fps and R26 3050 fps and I good life. Said barrels will also be throated long enough for seating such bullets above the powder reservoir. . Lets compare three cartridges that do that; the old 7mm Rem. Creedmoor Sports $ 116.95 . The sample Hornady 180-gr. A barrel shot out for target competition might remain more than accurate enough for big game hunting. 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