Maybe 20 people had read it, and he acted like it was in the Daily News. After that I switched back to Larks, and I smoked those for a really long time. And, of course, New York was always more expensive than any other place in the United States, but you could live in New Yorkand by New York, I mean Manhattan. No one I knew talked about money. Polka Dotty ate seeds and celery tops, and my mother would give me Polka Dottys food, and I would go downstairs and eat it. As a child I kept the opposite hours. She is widely recognized for her collection of essays, including Metropolitan Life, The Fran Lebowitz Reader, and Social Studies. It is boring and it is arithmetic. But for I Cover the Waterfront, ordinarily I would go out to dinner with Marc the night beforeand when I say dinner, I mean some hamburger place or somethingand I would think of ideas, and then I would go home. The Fran Lebowitz Reader. I did not connect eating with staying alive, so I didnt think anything of eating the food. I would stand in front of the class and report on a book I had made up. Fran Lebowitz moved to New York City from her hometown of Morristown, NJ when she was 19. Then I went to a prep school that had a paper called the Wilson Wyndowe. Im a horrible girlfriend. This is another thing most people don't know about Toni: though she was incredibly hardworking, she was physically incredibly lazy. LEBOWITZ: No. I never had any machines. One of the other ones was a Manson-type film, a hippie death cult. Its a very bad idea. The idea wasnt that I would establish myself and then have the rest of my family join me. CLEMENTE: Since we are New Yorkers, we should talk real estate. Id call it Hello, This is Fran.. American International made so many great movies that theyve all melted in my mind into one great A.I.P. No, Im just intrigued by them, because, to me, theyre like talking animals. As a Democrat, Id quite like him to be the candidate. Im not afraid to be on TV. I had this aunt who had a book called The Night Visiters. But now, as Ive grown up, all my friends have developed much more mature writing habits. It was one room, but that makes it sound grander than it was. She thought it might be broadening to be banned from fashion shows and book-launching parties as well, and came up with a new name for her new, improved column, I Cover the Waterfront ." They had very good writers, but they were these old, stout white men. I never would start writing before midnight and I would finish at, like, seven in the morning. He said theyd fix it. Lebowitz: Ill never make it as a typist. LEBOWITZ: But what about the caffeine? That tends to upset people. CLEMENTE: There was a brilliant article by Rgis Debrayhe was a guerrilla guy with Che Guevarasaying that, since the election of the American president has an effect on the life of every citizen of the planet, all citizens of the planet should vote. One day they would show you how to plant tomatoes, the next day theyd show how to raise chickens, the day after that how to can peas. LEBOWITZ: Well, you know, so few Americans vote that we may not even notice it. Im only afraid when I write. I loved getting the measles and colds so I could sit on the couch and watch all those morning situation comedies. It became the major thing I was punished for. I think my most enormous smoking punishment was being grounded for a month. For some reason, I decided to cut off my hair and bleach it blond. When asked about the long delay in its delivery to her publisher, she explained that she only works on it on the side. You cant do it. So I remember I said, Look, if you dont like it, give it back to me. The essays were published inMetropolitan Life(1978) andSocial Studies(1981). - 48-page book (text in German) covering the Exploding Plastic Inevitable, Andy Warhol, the Velvet Underground in film and a discography, with many b&w and colour photos. You're only as good as your last haircut. Or I would call people on the telephone and have their responses broadcast. He packs them, and then every time you move, they have to be put in different ways. But, of course, Ive always been old at heart. Its not my preference, but it is my lot in life. This is America, what is the culture? Interview still frame courtesy of Stephanie Black. Jamaica Kincaid is a generous host. Kincaid divides her time between Cambridge, Massachusetts, where she is a professor of African American studies at Harvard University, and Bennington, Vermont, where her large brown clapboard house with yellow window trim is shielded by trees. Now youd have to have a zillion dollars to live there. So forcing people into a situation where theyre supposed to adore each other is probably bad. Ive never had a job I liked. The duo were discussing their childhoods, saying as children they were never able to partake in "adult" conversations unless they were . Im great at the beginning, because I can be very romantic. At the age of 27, Fran Lebowitz has been suddenly hailed as the funniest writer to come down the pike since Dorothy Parker or, by some accounts, Oscar Wilde. Donald Trump is not my fault. Then 50 questions, then 20 questions, then, finally, you said, Can you see Im trying to read?. LEBOWITZ: I drove a cab. But I just cant smile at people for money. Lebowitz: Ive had a number of interesting, colorful jobs. When it was on at 1:30 I saw no reason to get up in the morning, but now its on at 11:30, so sometimes I wake up to watch it. And its not my desire to make New York more suburban. She was a hot little number in 1978 . Like, in World War I, a whole generation of Englishmen died all at once. Maybe Ill donate them to one of those film schools in Los Angeles for a tax write-off. It was really a passion with me. FRANCESCO CLEMENTES LARGE-SCALE INSTALLATION, ENCAMPMENT, WILL TRAVEL TO EVELEIGH, AUSTRALIA, THIS SUMMER. Then, in 1972, she began writing for Andy Warhols Interview. But when I say no kitchen, I mean no sink. I reviewed lots of movies that never opened in New York, only in drive-ins. She is an actress and producer, known for The Wolf of Wall Street (2013), Law & Order (1990) and Law & Order: Criminal Intent (2001). I would have liked to have met Nabokov. She said theyd take one pack out and then move the rest up. At least to my face. In the case of most good writers the writing is better than they are. I think I first came across it in one of the Bronts. Fran Lebowitz kicks off her career working for a small magazine, "Changes" at the age of 21 where she sold advertising space, then wrote book and movie reviews and was hired as a columnist for "Interview" by Andy Warhol where she wrote a column called "I Cover the Waterfront." My mother and father thought that because I didnt go to college Id probably end up working in the five-and-ten. But there was a myth about her. Photograph by Christopher Macsurak. I also used to write a zillion songs. Did you write it at the last minute? My parents did. This will come as no surprise to anyone who is even vaguely familiar with her work, which, in the past four decades, has largely consisted of being Fran Lebowitz: a strong-willed, grumpy,. One of the movies was The Thing with Two Heads, starring Ray Milland and Rosie Grier. In conversation with Interview pal Francesco Clemente, Lebowitz here lays out her tongue-in-cheek platform for a mayoral run, declares the Donalds run done, and explains why New York is the greatest place in the world. Monday June 7 2021. The idea of writing something without publishing it is too horrifying to me. Correct? I believe Im a great friend. I used to like this guy Milt Kamen. Because if people dont hold grudges, it means they just dont care what people do. The psychiatrist also had shoulder-length hair and Levis under his white coat, and I spent ten minutes arguing with him over whether Id taken acid or smoked pot. They made me wait three hours to see the psychiatrist, and by that time I was starting to come down. This conversation began at a public event at the 92nd Street Y in 2013, and was picked up again in her Vermont kitchen eight years later, in the summer of 2021, when the social restrictions of the pandemic had, for a time, eased. It went on at five-thirty or six in the morning. Fran Lebowitz was born on 27 October 1950 in Morristown, New Jersey, USA. Fran Lebowitz: I Cover the Waterfront. Especially really horrible ones. Since 1974, High Times Magazine has been the #1 resource for cannabis news, culture, brands and marijuana legalization laws. Theres an out-loud laugh (or more) on every page, as well as many passages destined for the quotation dictionaries, and the best epigrams written since the invention of television. Unless they own a hotel chain, I dont think a single one of these eight million people are happy about this. General? And I said, Because I liked your clever ads.. . 2. Aside from the collected Talk Stories (2001), her nonfiction works include A Small Place (1988), a reckoning with the colonial legacy on Antigua; My Brother (1997), a memoir of the tragedy of AIDS in her family; and two books on gardening, My Garden (Book) (1999) and Among Flowers: A Walk in the Himalaya (2005). If you were going to have dinner with some of those older people you mentioned, say writers, which ones would you pick? An opinion piece by the one and only Debbie "Blondie" Harry, right in time for Valentine's Day! In person and on the page, Kincaids is a literary voice. Lebowitz: I was beatnikesque. Twenty-five people sitting in the room staring at you while you are thinking. I didnt lead a riot or set fire to the gym or do anything James Deanish. had one incredible movie after another. And I reviewed those. Because if people dont hold grudges, it means they just dont care what people do.FRAN LEBOWITZ, LEBOWITZ: It was for The New York Times. But so far I have not. There could be butchers and bookstores. Like a city. But why do these things have to be either/or? I didnt do anything interesting. LEBOWITZ: Yes, I was born in New Jersey and I lived in New Jersey until I was 18. press handouts. Copyright 2023 Interview Magazine. I know this sounds insane, but I just hate it. You have to say fuck, you have to have these kinds of sex. If someone else has to write, then you know you have a willing companion to talk to on the phone for hours and hours while they put off their writing. And then all this junk in the theater, we would no longer need the kind of stuff that tourists like. Now I call up friends during the day and theyre writing. I rolled my own cigarettes. February 10, 2022 Fran Lebowitz doesn't care what you think, unless you're carrying a gun. October 3, 2022 | 2:24pm. Black cigarettes, every horrible adolescent smoking gesture imaginable. Im afraid Im sitting beyond my means.. A Bic pen. I have to take all the junk off the desk and wash the desk. I think if there were no such thing as men, there would be no word processors. The episode closes with Dear Someone, a poem by Deborah Landau. The Modern Farmer came on before Sunrise Semester, and it was about farming. . Then one day Polka Dotty was found dead. Not just in school; I count on my fingers still. With one suitcase? Theyre acting as if the other people are Abraham Lincoln. There was nothing televisiony or psychological about it. I would stand at the border and say, Youre coming here to live, really? But this idea that people cannot kill each other? Your friends who dont write will not stay on the phone with you, because they have other real things they want to do. The study where she writes is a sunroom surrounded on three sides by windows. That's honestly, that's love.". So all the judgment left at the same time that all this creativity left. During that period I had stripes cut on my hands. 19 January 2021. As a result, the column was the last word on Hollywoods follies, and it was also hilariously funny, winning her a small cult of fanatical fans. I have a double policy, which would also solve immigration: I would stand at the border of New York City and I would say, You can come here to live, but you cant come here to visit. If youre coming here, you better be immigrating. And then I would go to the Factory and turn it in. CLEMENTE: What aspect of New York do you think has really fundamentally changed? And the matron walked in, and the girl actually swallowed it. It was terribly disconcerting because I knew that they werent going to cure me. I Married Joan, I Love Lucy, I loved all those situation comedies. Lebowitz: Not from the people who made the movies. Those memories are a constant source of some strange pleasure for me. Now I hate the smell of pot. High Times: What was your best subject in school? High Times: Didnt you write some pornographic books as a struggling artist? To celebrate, we're republishing Glenn O'Brien's interview with the living legend from the August, 1978 print edition of High Times. High Times: What are your favorite magazines? Im a horrible girlfriend. America is a great idea, so thats why its a great country. Another time I saw a real pretty girl standing in front of the mirror with a little tiny cigarette butt hanging out of her mouth, teasing her hair. LEBOWITZ: I drank my lifetime supply of alcohol and I took my lifetime supply of drugs between the ages of 15 and 19. Fran Lebowitz is 69 years old October 27. Fran Lebowitz: I cover the waterfront. When I started writing Talk pieces at The New Yorker, I tried to get away from the anonymous we they used. I remember walking in the hot sun to one of the American bases in Antiguapast the crazy house, as we called the lunatic asylum, and the dead house, where the bodies of people who died in the hospital were put until they were collected by the undertakerto be interviewed by an American soldiers wife. She is a presence; everything begins to happen when she talks. That was one. Well, I work on amachine. And, first of . She has been a resident of Manhattan, New York since 1970. I have about ten thousand. I used to steal hers. High Times: Tell me about your books before Metropolitan Life? Lebowitz: Sepia is my all-time favorite. Fran Lebowitzs trademark is the sneer; she disapproves of virtually everything except sleep, cigarette smoking, and good furniture. On the other hand, in the last few weeks, a couple of times I had dinner with people where I was the only American at the table, and I was yelled at for Donald Trump, like he was my fault. There may, in fact, still be no ceiling in the bathroom. It was 87. If you don't know Fran Lebowitz, you'll get to know her very well in Pretend It's a City, the new 7-episode docuseries directed by her longtime friend, Martin Scorsese.Lebowitz has been . Fran Lebowitz is a New York humorist who worked as a columnist for Andy Warhol's Interview before publishing her first collection of comic essays, Metropolitan Life, in 1978. It actually works here. Saying no is a little different. texted me, 'Crazy idea, but I think you should play Fran Lebowitz on "Update,"'" he continued. They thought I made them up. You might say that was the influence of my mother. Couldnt it be clean, or cleaner. Famously known to have sidestepped buying into browsing the Internet or even owning a computer, the iconic humorist doesn't - nor will she ever . Lebowitz: I was a behavior problem as far as talking. Martin Scorsese and Fran Lebowitz are trying to remember how they met. More information Everyone I know says, Fran is a Luddite, she doesnt have a computer. But I never had a typewriter. First of all, there were a zillion bad jobs. 246, Rachel Cusk and Sheila Heti discuss how writing her first novel helped Cusk discover her shape or identity or essence. Next, Allan Gurganuss reading of his story It Had Wings, about an arthritic woman who finds a fallen angel in her backyard, is interspersed with a version of the story rendered as a one-woman opera by the composer Bruce Saylor. CLEMENTE: [laughs] Lets talk about your twenty thousand books. Fran Lebowitz is a writer born on 27th October 1950 in Morristown, New Jersey, United States. In fact, most of the offending language appears in the trailer alone. Lebowitz: Because I was 19 years old. Fran Lebowitz.the toast of the town; a brilliant writer who almost never writes. I often think of the time before my brothers were bornand this might sound very childish, but I dont careas this paradise of my mother and me always being together. Needless to say, I'm a big fan and I'm telling everyone I know to watch it right away. People say, Well, what would you do with Times Square? And I always think, Gee, I dont know. But all the rest of them were, including Jeb Bush. So I would lie in bed and make up book reports about books that I made up. I saw the super once, just when I moved in, and I pointed out to him there was no ceiling in the bathroom. High Times: What was it like being a cab driver? And that is the only place I have those columns, because when I moved from my first horrible apartment, I had every Interview, ever. CLEMENTE: You were not good at math in school? I like Thurber. I believe Im a great friend. Why is that? All-around cultural oracle Fran Lebowitz really began her ascent to that pulpit here at Interview, in 1972, writing a wonderful column about terrible movies, and then covering the waterfront, as she called it: opining on sundry topics, giving advice, ranting, reflecting, and hooking the reading world (such as it is) on that voicethat saucy, LEBOWITZ: I only know how many there are because for the last several years Ive moved every five minutes, so theyre counted. . Lebowitz: Ive gotten some marriage proposals, but I dont think they were serious. Lebowitz: A writer. What are those computer letters made of anyway? But all the girls I knew when I was young who had to workthere were rich girlsbut the ones who had to work were waitresses. It didnt rhyme. At twenty-one, she began a column called "I Cover the Waterfront," for Andy Warhol's Interview magazine. Hes not going to be president. If theyd known anyone in London, they would have sent me there. The person who checks you in and takes your name and insurance came over to me and actually said, to me, Why did you choose Mass. Im simply not a fan of navet. Once a girl was sitting on the window ledge smoking a cigarette and the matron walked in and the girl jumped out the window. In "Pretend It's A City," Lebowitz talks about many subjects, including growing up in New Jersey with parents who raised her to be a wife and mother, what's happened to New York City since she. LEBOWITZ: I used to. I saw a lot of movies that were never released because people knew of my interest in that sort of movie, so I often went to distributors screenings and sat with 12 men with cigars. When I got to the hospital I was restrained. Fran Lebowitz has tough love for tough COVID-19 times. My mother came from Dominica, and the thing about those little islands is that people from one island or the other dont like each other. She went from the New School in Manhattan to Franconia College in New Hampshire, and worked at Magnum Photos and at the teen magazine Ingenue. By Kate Mossman Enough time has passed, Fran Lebowitz thinks, to admit she went to a birthday party on 9/11. No. Paper, you can feel it. I clearly had one of those eating problems, but I didnt know what they were. LEBOWITZ: I mean, because I had no money. LEBOWITZ: I dont cook. High Times: Were you a behavior problem in school? Someone once told me they were sending me 14,000 roses and 12,000 Chinese concubines, but they never showed up. 15.19. Im such a slow writer I have no need for anything as fast as a word processor. Theyre all right-wing nuts. The other is that horses are hands. Lebowitz: I have to say I have only written back to important people, people in the publishing business. I hate money. After I moved to New York, I modeled for people like Steven Meisel. On the Boston University phone you dialed N-E-E-D and a concerned Jewish graduate student came over and took me to Mass. But her crankiness betrayed a heart of gold. Just one day the headmaster woke up and thought. Why dont you just put some of your books in storage? And I always say the same thing: What if I told you I had four children? I did that for a couple of years. The writer and raconteur embodied the hip, downtown Manhattan of the 70s. While working in the local Carvel ice-cream store, she attended an Episcopalian day school until she was thrown out for non-specific surliness. Certain that she would starve to death following this banishment, Lebowitz skipped college and moved to Manhattan, where she pursued such jobs as taxi driving, belt peddling, apartment cleaning (with a small specialty in Venetian blinds), and selling advertising space forChangesmagazine. Im not a nervous person. CLEMENTE: And when you wrote these columns, how did you go about that? Its like the two worst possible things you could imagine together. High Times: Did A.I.P. She is alive to the advantage in the irony that her literary heritage had not predicted her, exalted, brave, free. And I read them. Lebowitz: I was unceremoniously expelled from prep school in my senior year for no apparent reason. I loved dressing up and going out. Why did your family send you to America? I just talked it while a speed freak typed it. Fran Lebowitz contains multitudes: author (with a decades-old writer's block), journalist (Vanity Fair and Interview, et al. I wanted consciousness-restricting drugs; thats why I used to like liquor. She has plants that move her because of how they look or how they behave, or because of their histories. But he was very nice, and in the letter that banned me he told me how much he liked me. And its not just the Bush family, all families designate each child as having some particular trait. Lebowitz spent the pandemic alone, at her own insistence, having turned down offers to lock down with wealthy friends at their Hamptons homes . No matter how dull they are, they still have to figure things out for themselves. That was actually a job. I think I will learn to type. And I was once ejected from the Whitney Museum for making comments during a film about baking. She had managed to infiltrate the staff of a New York underground arts magazine called Changes as an ad sales person and eventually conned her way into writing assignments. Everyone was paid in cash. Getty Images. Like love does. High Times: If someone offered you an hour TV special that you could do anything with, what would you do? A.I.P. It used to be a tradition in agricultural families that youd sacrifice the eldest child. Lebowitz: Yes, but not with much zeal. Lebowitz: I dont think I was a poet for even an entire year. And he would weigh them. Its the thing that Im most criticized for. Because its everyones dream: Someday Im going to go to New York and go to Queens. Every place theres a hotel, theres one less apartment building. So I went to his studio several times while he was making the ballet. Richard Robinson thinks there should be a TV station thats only the best commercials. I started being a poet when I lived in Poughkeepsie, and I wrote a book of poetry called Poughkeepsie Blood. I mean, New Yorks not exactly antiseptic. Glenn OBriens interview with the iconic Fran Lebowitz from the August, 1978 issue of High Times magazine. And I also knew I didnt want to write like anyone else. It was kind of adolescent-petulantsulking, rebellious. I was caught smoking, and I didnt have the cigarette in my hand or smoke coming out of my mouth, and they suspended me anyway, so it turned out not to be true, just suspicion was enough. BUT.she has plenty to say and has absolutely no problem with verbal expression and is brutally honest. So he wasnt a surprise to me. Lebowitz: My writing habits are basically nonwriting habits. I liked it better than critics screenings because they didnt sit there trying to think of entertaining comments; they just sat there with their cigars, trying to figure out how much money they could make on it. Fran Lebowitz, the writer, cultural critic, and professional raconteur, spoke with me over the phone via landline, as she famously doesn't own a cell phone or computer. I mean, that is why we had that little war with England. I remember the darkness of being sent awaysheer misery of a kind that I didnt know existed. Then to Merits. Fran Lebowitz Toni Morrison was one of her best friends for almost 40 years, up to Morrison's death in 2019. I wish it was still on, except now I guess it would be too modern. He was probably grumpy. The title song was sung by a truck. $598 $300 at Ralph. Well, huge myths grew up around the matron at my school. The years have gone by, but she is still tall. I never saw those issues. They told you what to write. Lebowitz: I didnt worry about it. French symbolist? One of them was my columns. I wait until the editor says, Unless its in tomorrow morning at ten oclock we cant run it. Then I stay up all night and do it. High Times: Did you watch television as a child? Obviously, I was opposed to this, and I still am. I still cant type. Male writers like them because they have this sneaking suspicion that writing is not the most masculine profession. High Times: Do you remember the first funny thing you ever said? 5. CLEMENTE: What were his illustrations like? High Times: What was the style? References This page was last . January 30, 2011. "Pretend it's a citywhere there are other people ," she pleads. In between writing books Lebowitz is a guest editor and occasional columnist for Vanity Fair. Thru Show Type: Comedy Box Office: 800-775-2000 www.auditoriumtheatre.org 2011. High Times: How far did you get in school? Because you could always get shifts in a restaurant. Id rather have people shooting up in my apartment; at least I dont have to smell it. As boring as reading it. Knowledge of a culture. By the time my youngest brother was born her life had collapsed on her, but she was a very elegant woman when I was young. SHOP NOW. Fran Lebowitz has realised George Costanza is, in fact, an idiot. Lebowitz is strictly opposed to technology and to this day has no cell phone, computer, or typewriter. In the vein of Lebowitz's acclaimed Netflix limited series, Pretend It's a CityThe Fran Lebowitz Reader brings together two of the famed author's bestsellers, Metropolitan Life and Social Studies.In "elegant, finely honed prose" (The Washington Post Book World), Lebowitz limns the vicissitudes of contemporary urban lifeits fads, trends, crazes, morals, and fashions. Lebowitz: Tareyton, because thats what my mother smoked. Lebowitz was born in 1950 in Morristown, New Jersey, the daughter of furniture store proprietors. Fran describes Ralph Lauren's copying, and eventual embodiment, of Brooks Brothers WASP style. I went to bed earlier than anyone in the world. Fran Lebowitz, ca. 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